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incident that doesn't involve aliens at

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it comes right over our heads he saw a

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classic flying saucer really standing in

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the clearing he turned over to my father

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and held his hand and he looked in his

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welcome to podcast ufo for our live show

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we're live every wednesday at 8pm

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hello and welcome to the show i'm martin

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willis your host

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we have a fair show for you this evening

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how do you like that a fair show in a

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we have an astronomy an astronomy that's

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hard word to say sometimes astronomy

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from andy fleming exoplanets and

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our guest for the show this evening is

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louise she is entertaining and she has

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should be a great show for those of you

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who have been emailing me i apologize

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have been pretty busy lately

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that i like short

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and sweet emails because my eyes

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some people say i think i have

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separation anxiety with my

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attention deficit disorder i'm not sure

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i got some emails about last week's

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and his claiming to have had past lives

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you know a number of people email me

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if we do live multiple lives um i'm

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i'm too tired to do this again

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well enough goofing around a couple of

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stories

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spacex is currently docked with the

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and i am loving it i think the world of

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and um i really like you know the

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things that he tries and he just keeps

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going he almost had to close the doors

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at tesla motor cars but

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he's a real pioneer in privatizing space

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and check out this great awesome

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interactive website it's in our show

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notes at podcastufo.com

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it's interactive you got to check it out

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our regular our regulars also know that

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our facebook page and peggy shunning she

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she's always digging up great stuff um

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the next story i want to talk about

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is canadian witnesses see a ufo at 400

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this great picture again on our website

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ufo and all that i tend to think he's

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huffington post and now it's time for

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applied energetics did i say that right

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maybe i did and she's also the host of

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joining us and you um

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and it is through their influence that

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many of the things that we have learned

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experienced and explored

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uh came into being you know a lot of

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times you you don't really think about

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this but

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when you think the earth is four point

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what is it four point

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three three billion years old i mean

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it's it's just a number

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but when you really look at the span of

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time that is

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you know so many things could be here

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and disappear

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and without a trace for instance and um

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i was reading somewhere where

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another i know it sounds like a long

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time but it really isn't in the scope of

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things another 30 million years will be

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no sign of the pyramids he'll comp

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be completely gone and that's something

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you would just expect to stay

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forever you know so um

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when you're talking you know four

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billion years

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to get your head around that number and

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how much time that truly is

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you know there could be other

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civilizations that popped up or

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or visited or you know i'm open

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open-minded to

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um to those possibilities

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and you know when we went into writing

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this book

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we really i mean it was kind of funny we

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did a lot of talking in the garage that

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was kind of like well actually we called

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it the vortex because you'd go in

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you thought you talked for 10 minutes

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and you know two or three hours later

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you'd walk out and it's like wow

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it's been two or three hours um and

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there was a whole lot of conversation

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about where the book should come from

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because we were both

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very hesitant to just throw

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the whole extraterrestrial you know

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ancient alien thing

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on the table um you know and it's not

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that we were trying to

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disprove it or we were trying to prove

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it

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i started to

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physically write you know moved out of

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the researching phase moved out of the

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rough organization phase and started

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putting you know

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pen to paper there was no way

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to get around what

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mythology suggested

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without going there period

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because it doesn't make any sense it

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doesn't make any sense

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to talk about these races of gods that

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are having these wars and there are

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these

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gods that are humanoid but they're not

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human you know they're described as half

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men half snakes i mean excuse me

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not human at least not any humans i've

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ever met

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you know and how do you take all of this

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material that again you know

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going on the basis that we're looking

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for consistently

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consistency worldwide so you have

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this a worldwide belief in these half

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men

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half snake half reptile people um

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what do you do with that well give some

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examples if you would

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in particular what you're just talking

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about now in the two different regions

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that would be

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uh supposedly untouched from each other

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or unconnected

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can you give some examples of that well

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that the best known example um

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is the noah story and i'm sure everyone

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listening knows about knowing the ark

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and the animals going on the boat and

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it's him and his wife and his kids and

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you know they survived the story they

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could go watch the movie

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if they're not sure anyway um

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i had heard years and years and years

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and years ago that there were like 250

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flood stories

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on the earth and in my research i have

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found other people that have suggested

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that there are 500 or 600 flood stories

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on the planet my

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going into the research i just assumed

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that in the amazon you know

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the amazon flooded and you would hear

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this story about their plight but let me

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let me even bring it

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more down to home so

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my bathroom is on the second floor and

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so let's say i turn the water on to

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you know fill the tub and the doorbell

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rings and i go downstairs and i answer

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the door and now the tub

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is overflowing everywhere and

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the next thing i know is that there's

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plaster falling down from my ceiling and

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it hits my little dog

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on the head and it knocks her out and

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there's water all over my sofa

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you know that's my flood story you know

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and every time someone asked well what

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happened

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that's going to be my story so let's say

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at your house

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you have um a hot water heater that's in

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the garage

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and in your garage you have you know a

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bunch of books and papers

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and and things that you really don't

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want to get wet but they're in your

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garage anyway

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and now the hot water heater blows and

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there's water you know an inch of water

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all over your garage floor

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and it soaks up into all of your

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cardboard boxes and it kind of wrecks

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all the stuff in your garage

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that's going to be your flood story and

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the story you tell

427
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is going to be vastly different from the

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story that i tell

429
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about my flood wouldn't you say have you

430
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been reading my

431
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facebook page no i do

432
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i actually do have a flood story

433
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what's your flood story come on oh no i

434
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just bought a property uh that

435
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uh has it was a it's a great old

436
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conference center it's not even really

437
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that old but

438
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it was built with flat roofs and in in

439
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new england you just don't do that

440
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and so i actually had a swimming pool

441
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i put a one of those uh kitty swimming

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pools

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in the middle of the uh grand salon to

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let the water from the ceiling drip into

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it

446
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been trying

447
00:17:04,230 --> 00:17:02,079
okay but see but your flood story is

448
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different from my flood story which is

449
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different than the hot water heater in

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the garage flood story which is

451
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going to be different than the the

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hurricane or whatever the storm that hit

453
00:17:15,990 --> 00:17:14,160
the east coast and the people that live

454
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there there's going to be individual

455
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stories and there's going to be a

456
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regional story

457
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you know or southeast asia so you know

458
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they're all

459
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inherently different but when you start

460
00:17:29,350 --> 00:17:27,360
reading the mythology

461
00:17:31,510 --> 00:17:29,360
what you find and i mean this blew me

462
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away it blew me away

463
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was and i'm being pretty inclusive with

464
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what i'm going to say

465
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there was a righteous pious or virtuous

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man who was warned of an

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impending flood he built a boat an

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ark dug a canoe climbed the tree climbed

469
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on a leaf climbed to the top of a

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mountain

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he survived the flood with his sister

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his wife

473
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there might have been a few children

474
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there might be like an old man

475
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involved in it and if some of the

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stories animals get on the boat

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and some of the stories animals climb to

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the top of the mountain

479
00:18:10,310 --> 00:18:07,919
if the animals are mentioned at all um

480
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in a few stories which were

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very geographically dispersed so it was

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like

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one in mesoamerica one in the middle

484
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east

485
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you know but only a few uh an animal is

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released

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to let them know that the waters recede

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and

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have

490
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pretty much the same set of events with

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the same

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number of people that survive and that's

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it

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you don't find you know and the ceiling

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tiles fell down and hit

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her dog in the head i mean you don't

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00:18:46,789 --> 00:18:44,480
find that

498
00:18:47,990 --> 00:18:46,799
so it's a lot of similarity in this in

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the story beyond

500
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it's beyond similarities i mean they're

501
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almost word for word

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i mean with variation so as an example

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this is one of my favorite ones

504
00:19:01,510 --> 00:18:59,520
this is out of peru um it talks about

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these two righteous brothers who

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uh were farming and one of their llama

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came up

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and told them that there was going to be

509
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a flood so

510
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the brothers take their wives and their

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children they climb to the top of the

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mountain so when they get to the top of

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the mountain there are at some animals

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on the top of the mountain

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and so as the waters rise the mountain

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the level of the mountain goes up

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and as the waters recede the level of

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the mountain go down

519
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and they survive the flood so i mean you

520
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know there's

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different pieces but you know in a

522
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bigger picture

523
00:19:41,830 --> 00:19:39,990
now what about also there's i don't

524
00:19:43,750 --> 00:19:41,840
necessarily want to say artifacts

525
00:19:45,430 --> 00:19:43,760
but aren't there like cave drawings that

526
00:19:46,470 --> 00:19:45,440
are very similar in different parts of

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the world that could have never been

528
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connected

529
00:19:51,350 --> 00:19:50,880
um i mean there's so much stuff i mean

530
00:19:53,590 --> 00:19:51,360
with

531
00:19:55,669 --> 00:19:53,600
what we did we really looked at the

532
00:19:57,909 --> 00:19:55,679
mythological record because by the time

533
00:20:01,190 --> 00:19:57,919
we started documenting things

534
00:20:01,750 --> 00:20:01,200
um it was already very late in the story

535
00:20:03,830 --> 00:20:01,760
i mean

536
00:20:05,430 --> 00:20:03,840
mankind wasn't created until like the

537
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second or last chapter

538
00:20:11,110 --> 00:20:08,640
of the book but no

539
00:20:13,590 --> 00:20:11,120
that is exactly true i mean just for my

540
00:20:16,149 --> 00:20:13,600
other research you know we find

541
00:20:18,310 --> 00:20:16,159
images that are very similar we find

542
00:20:19,669 --> 00:20:18,320
construction techniques that are very

543
00:20:22,789 --> 00:20:19,679
similar

544
00:20:25,430 --> 00:20:22,799
we find graphic images actually i was

545
00:20:28,070 --> 00:20:25,440
working on this today and i'm hoping

546
00:20:29,510 --> 00:20:28,080
i can actually get it to the release

547
00:20:32,230 --> 00:20:29,520
place

548
00:20:34,789 --> 00:20:32,240
is a video called icon the

549
00:20:37,110 --> 00:20:34,799
deconstructing of um

550
00:20:38,310 --> 00:20:37,120
the archetypes of our ancestors which is

551
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a video

552
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and one of the things it looks at is it

553
00:20:44,230 --> 00:20:42,240
more from

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00:20:47,669 --> 00:20:44,240
our history from an artistic point of

555
00:20:51,270 --> 00:20:47,679
view and the parallels that we find

556
00:20:54,230 --> 00:20:51,280
in art you know cave art other art

557
00:20:56,310 --> 00:20:54,240
uh different architectural styles um you

558
00:20:57,909 --> 00:20:56,320
know like the megalithic construction

559
00:21:00,149 --> 00:20:57,919
i mean i don't know if you saw on

560
00:21:01,909 --> 00:21:00,159
facebook i think everyone or your

561
00:21:05,029 --> 00:21:01,919
listeners

562
00:21:07,990 --> 00:21:05,039
would be familiar with the uh wall

563
00:21:10,149 --> 00:21:08,000
in peru saksuman where it's those giant

564
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boulders that just fit together like

565
00:21:14,870 --> 00:21:12,159
puzzle pieces

566
00:21:16,630 --> 00:21:14,880
i just saw one report that it looks they

567
00:21:19,750 --> 00:21:16,640
think they found a similar

568
00:21:22,470 --> 00:21:19,760
similar construction in russia

569
00:21:24,390 --> 00:21:22,480
um i just interviewed someone on my show

570
00:21:25,110 --> 00:21:24,400
just energy radio that we're talking

571
00:21:27,350 --> 00:21:25,120
about

572
00:21:28,950 --> 00:21:27,360
uh same kind of megalithic construction

573
00:21:32,549 --> 00:21:28,960
in australia

574
00:21:33,750 --> 00:21:32,559
you know so it's coming up all over the

575
00:21:37,029 --> 00:21:33,760
place

576
00:21:39,510 --> 00:21:37,039
wow and there's no it's

577
00:21:40,070 --> 00:21:39,520
it's just another one of those mysteries

578
00:21:42,710 --> 00:21:40,080
just

579
00:21:45,510 --> 00:21:42,720
you know this show is basically based on

580
00:21:48,070 --> 00:21:45,520
ufos and sightings and all that but

581
00:21:48,870 --> 00:21:48,080
you know this sort of all ties in and

582
00:21:51,029 --> 00:21:48,880
while i'm

583
00:21:52,230 --> 00:21:51,039
basically mentioning this what are your

584
00:21:55,990 --> 00:21:52,240
thoughts on

585
00:21:56,710 --> 00:21:56,000
today's ufos well you know i go back and

586
00:21:59,990 --> 00:21:56,720
forth

587
00:22:01,909 --> 00:22:00,000
um i mean i i am not an experiencer

588
00:22:03,110 --> 00:22:01,919
so i can't you know speak from that

589
00:22:06,149 --> 00:22:03,120
perspective

590
00:22:07,430 --> 00:22:06,159
um from my you know reading of the

591
00:22:10,950 --> 00:22:07,440
mythology there is

592
00:22:13,350 --> 00:22:10,960
so much beyond belief material

593
00:22:14,950 --> 00:22:13,360
that comes from the mythological record

594
00:22:17,990 --> 00:22:14,960
that supports

595
00:22:19,029 --> 00:22:18,000
claims made by contemporary ufologists

596
00:22:21,909 --> 00:22:19,039
it's not funny

597
00:22:23,029 --> 00:22:21,919
i mean i do an entire presentation about

598
00:22:25,990 --> 00:22:23,039
uh

599
00:22:27,510 --> 00:22:26,000
alien agenda and underground bases um

600
00:22:28,789 --> 00:22:27,520
because there are just too many

601
00:22:31,190 --> 00:22:28,799
parallels

602
00:22:32,390 --> 00:22:31,200
um you know and so based on you know i

603
00:22:35,350 --> 00:22:32,400
do ghost hunting

604
00:22:36,789 --> 00:22:35,360
you know so i believe in ghosts and just

605
00:22:38,710 --> 00:22:36,799
based on the amount of

606
00:22:40,310 --> 00:22:38,720
information and evidence that's out

607
00:22:43,350 --> 00:22:40,320
there even though i haven't

608
00:22:43,830 --> 00:22:43,360
experienced the ufo i feel like i'd be

609
00:22:45,830 --> 00:22:43,840
kind of

610
00:22:48,230 --> 00:22:45,840
hypocritical to say i don't believe in

611
00:22:50,310 --> 00:22:48,240
them i mean i know we're not alone

612
00:22:51,590 --> 00:22:50,320
and i know that they were here in our

613
00:22:54,470 --> 00:22:51,600
past and so

614
00:22:57,190 --> 00:22:54,480
why should they not be around now it

615
00:22:58,870 --> 00:22:57,200
just doesn't make sense

616
00:23:00,310 --> 00:22:58,880
i i totally understand what you're

617
00:23:03,270 --> 00:23:00,320
saying there on the

618
00:23:03,990 --> 00:23:03,280
message board someone wants to know how

619
00:23:05,990 --> 00:23:04,000
you think

620
00:23:08,149 --> 00:23:06,000
basically the pyramids were constructed

621
00:23:12,470 --> 00:23:08,159
have you looked into that or

622
00:23:18,870 --> 00:23:14,630
there are so many different theories

623
00:23:22,230 --> 00:23:21,510
i think anything that comes out of

624
00:23:24,549 --> 00:23:22,240
mainstream

625
00:23:26,549 --> 00:23:24,559
science you need to just put to the side

626
00:23:28,390 --> 00:23:26,559
i mean i do believe that there was some

627
00:23:31,110 --> 00:23:28,400
kind of advanced technology

628
00:23:32,789 --> 00:23:31,120
that had to have been employed to move

629
00:23:35,110 --> 00:23:32,799
those stones into place

630
00:23:37,270 --> 00:23:35,120
i believe that they are much much older

631
00:23:40,549 --> 00:23:37,280
than the 2500 bc

632
00:23:43,830 --> 00:23:40,559
that you know they try to place them at

633
00:23:45,590 --> 00:23:43,840
um i agree with you on that one and i

634
00:23:47,430 --> 00:23:45,600
think you know robert bubal

635
00:23:51,830 --> 00:23:47,440
and graham hancock try to say that

636
00:23:54,789 --> 00:23:51,840
they're 13 000 years old

637
00:23:55,269 --> 00:23:54,799
maybe i think they might be older than

638
00:23:57,190 --> 00:23:55,279
that

639
00:23:58,470 --> 00:23:57,200
you know back also with the sphinx i

640
00:24:00,950 --> 00:23:58,480
think that's also

641
00:24:03,029 --> 00:24:00,960
you know minimally i think minimally you

642
00:24:04,549 --> 00:24:03,039
know 13 000 years old i think they could

643
00:24:07,990 --> 00:24:04,559
be older

644
00:24:10,630 --> 00:24:08,000
yeah i mean it's there's really uh no

645
00:24:12,310 --> 00:24:10,640
way to actually date for one thing

646
00:24:14,870 --> 00:24:12,320
there's no way to date stone

647
00:24:15,909 --> 00:24:14,880
there's there are ways to date say

648
00:24:18,710 --> 00:24:15,919
pottery

649
00:24:20,710 --> 00:24:18,720
and other you know things like that as

650
00:24:22,710 --> 00:24:20,720
far as when it was fired and

651
00:24:24,870 --> 00:24:22,720
and radiocarbon dating but when it comes

652
00:24:27,110 --> 00:24:24,880
to stone you know i i'm in the

653
00:24:28,470 --> 00:24:27,120
the fine arts and antiques and sometimes

654
00:24:30,310 --> 00:24:28,480
in antiquities

655
00:24:33,750 --> 00:24:30,320
you can get full because you can't

656
00:24:36,789 --> 00:24:33,760
figure out how old a stone is

657
00:24:39,190 --> 00:24:36,799
so what they're just grasping at uh

658
00:24:42,390 --> 00:24:39,200
dates because you know the found

659
00:24:44,789 --> 00:24:42,400
uh objects inside when they are occupied

660
00:24:47,990 --> 00:24:44,799
um you know so you're right they could

661
00:24:51,110 --> 00:24:48,000
be at any any age really

662
00:24:53,750 --> 00:24:51,120
well but i think also there is this

663
00:24:56,789 --> 00:24:53,760
basis that came out

664
00:24:59,990 --> 00:24:56,799
in the 1600s by james usher

665
00:25:02,149 --> 00:25:00,000
who dealing with the bible took

666
00:25:04,789 --> 00:25:02,159
all of the dates you know like adam b

667
00:25:06,950 --> 00:25:04,799
and eve begot cain and abel and

668
00:25:07,990 --> 00:25:06,960
they lived for so many years and they

669
00:25:09,830 --> 00:25:08,000
begot that

670
00:25:12,549 --> 00:25:09,840
and you know and they took all of these

671
00:25:15,549 --> 00:25:12,559
dates and he went back in time

672
00:25:17,750 --> 00:25:15,559
and identified that creation happened in

673
00:25:20,310 --> 00:25:17,760
4004 bc

674
00:25:20,950 --> 00:25:20,320
now i think you know in conventional

675
00:25:23,430 --> 00:25:20,960
wisdom

676
00:25:26,149 --> 00:25:23,440
we all realize that creation didn't

677
00:25:29,350 --> 00:25:26,159
happen in 4004 bc

678
00:25:31,990 --> 00:25:29,360
but i don't think that science has

679
00:25:33,669 --> 00:25:32,000
necessarily gotten that memo

680
00:25:36,789 --> 00:25:33,679
and they're still trying to place

681
00:25:40,230 --> 00:25:36,799
everything in that antiquated timeline

682
00:25:41,510 --> 00:25:40,240
that just doesn't work right yeah and i

683
00:25:44,630 --> 00:25:41,520
know i watched a

684
00:25:46,470 --> 00:25:44,640
um a documentary about

685
00:25:49,190 --> 00:25:46,480
the and someone is mentioning it now on

686
00:25:52,870 --> 00:25:49,200
the message board about the sphinx

687
00:25:56,710 --> 00:25:52,880
that seems to show signs of water or uh

688
00:25:59,909 --> 00:25:56,720
other type of uh erosion on it

689
00:26:03,750 --> 00:25:59,919
um and which would bring it way back

690
00:26:04,549 --> 00:26:03,760
as far as dates go i i've interviewed

691
00:26:07,190 --> 00:26:04,559
robert shock

692
00:26:09,269 --> 00:26:07,200
several times and we've had a couple of

693
00:26:12,390 --> 00:26:09,279
juicy conversations about it

694
00:26:14,870 --> 00:26:12,400
um one of the things that he says

695
00:26:15,830 --> 00:26:14,880
is that they would have to be minimally

696
00:26:18,789 --> 00:26:15,840
uh

697
00:26:20,870 --> 00:26:18,799
built before 7 500 bc you know because

698
00:26:24,470 --> 00:26:20,880
that's when it really dried up

699
00:26:25,750 --> 00:26:24,480
in the sahara you know the comment that

700
00:26:28,870 --> 00:26:25,760
i made to him

701
00:26:31,510 --> 00:26:28,880
was why would a group of

702
00:26:32,310 --> 00:26:31,520
engineers who were smart enough to carve

703
00:26:34,630 --> 00:26:32,320
the sphinx

704
00:26:36,390 --> 00:26:34,640
out of rock you know and make something

705
00:26:39,750 --> 00:26:36,400
so beautiful

706
00:26:42,390 --> 00:26:39,760
in a desert area carpet below the level

707
00:26:43,029 --> 00:26:42,400
of the ground yeah so that every other

708
00:26:46,070 --> 00:26:43,039
day

709
00:26:47,190 --> 00:26:46,080
you had to sweep it out

710
00:26:49,029 --> 00:26:47,200
you know if you had never thought of

711
00:26:49,830 --> 00:26:49,039
that but yeah well that you know when

712
00:26:51,669 --> 00:26:49,840
i'm on air

713
00:26:53,430 --> 00:26:51,679
sometimes stuff just comes to me and

714
00:26:55,909 --> 00:26:53,440
then it just comes out of my mouth and

715
00:26:59,350 --> 00:26:55,919
we both kind of laughed and he went

716
00:27:02,070 --> 00:26:59,360
you know you're right why would they

717
00:27:02,390 --> 00:27:02,080
you know if it was water runoff i'm sure

718
00:27:05,750 --> 00:27:02,400
they

719
00:27:07,510 --> 00:27:05,760
a certain gradient

720
00:27:10,149 --> 00:27:07,520
on the stone so that the water would

721
00:27:12,789 --> 00:27:10,159
just run off

722
00:27:14,950 --> 00:27:12,799
but sand not so much i mean how many

723
00:27:18,310 --> 00:27:14,960
times that thing been filled in and

724
00:27:18,630 --> 00:27:18,320
different you know pharaohs or napoleon

725
00:27:22,310 --> 00:27:18,640
or

726
00:27:24,149 --> 00:27:22,320
whoever have gone in and dug it back out

727
00:27:25,350 --> 00:27:24,159
now the ice age i wonder if that

728
00:27:28,870 --> 00:27:25,360
affected that

729
00:27:32,310 --> 00:27:28,880
area as far as

730
00:27:34,389 --> 00:27:32,320
at least water i'm not sure

731
00:27:36,870 --> 00:27:34,399
of the climate back then and that was

732
00:27:39,669 --> 00:27:36,880
what 10 000 years ago

733
00:27:40,070 --> 00:27:39,679
i mean that's when it pretty much ended

734
00:27:44,710 --> 00:27:40,080
was

735
00:27:47,510 --> 00:27:44,720
oh that's right 11 500 bc i think

736
00:27:48,870 --> 00:27:47,520
10 000 bc i mean because there was you

737
00:27:52,070 --> 00:27:48,880
know when all of the

738
00:27:55,430 --> 00:27:52,080
large mammals died you know the right

739
00:27:57,590 --> 00:27:55,440
the big sloths and the manchester right

740
00:28:01,269 --> 00:27:57,600
yeah you know and i think that was about

741
00:28:02,870 --> 00:28:01,279
10 000 bc

742
00:28:04,310 --> 00:28:02,880
you know but there was just like a a

743
00:28:06,630 --> 00:28:04,320
flash freeze

744
00:28:07,350 --> 00:28:06,640
right yeah all of a sudden they're all

745
00:28:09,430 --> 00:28:07,360
just

746
00:28:10,870 --> 00:28:09,440
i know they found um i think it was in

747
00:28:13,669 --> 00:28:10,880
colorado they found some

748
00:28:15,430 --> 00:28:13,679
amazing fossils all right next to each

749
00:28:22,149 --> 00:28:15,440
other

750
00:28:25,590 --> 00:28:22,159
so i getting back to

751
00:28:28,789 --> 00:28:25,600
um let's get back to humans

752
00:28:31,669 --> 00:28:28,799
okay and the extraterrestrial um

753
00:28:33,190 --> 00:28:31,679
so do you have a thoughts that we were

754
00:28:36,549 --> 00:28:33,200
seated here or

755
00:28:37,510 --> 00:28:36,559
what's your thoughts on that i mean my

756
00:28:40,950 --> 00:28:37,520
belief or

757
00:28:43,190 --> 00:28:40,960
you know based on my reading um

758
00:28:45,190 --> 00:28:43,200
i believe that the extraterrestrials

759
00:28:47,430 --> 00:28:45,200
actually came here at some point and i'm

760
00:28:49,510 --> 00:28:47,440
not saying a specific group because i

761
00:28:51,350 --> 00:28:49,520
believe there were multiple groups

762
00:28:52,789 --> 00:28:51,360
um but they came here and actually

763
00:28:55,110 --> 00:28:52,799
terraformed the planet

764
00:28:57,029 --> 00:28:55,120
i mean that's what i have been led to

765
00:28:57,990 --> 00:28:57,039
believe from reading the mythology so

766
00:29:00,710 --> 00:28:58,000
we're talking

767
00:29:01,669 --> 00:29:00,720
you know 3.8 billion years ago they were

768
00:29:05,269 --> 00:29:01,679
here

769
00:29:07,190 --> 00:29:05,279
terraforming um as far as dealing with

770
00:29:09,029 --> 00:29:07,200
humanity i mean i don't think they

771
00:29:09,830 --> 00:29:09,039
seated us here but i think they have

772
00:29:13,269 --> 00:29:09,840
been

773
00:29:14,870 --> 00:29:13,279
directly linked to the evolution of life

774
00:29:17,909 --> 00:29:14,880
on the planet

775
00:29:18,710 --> 00:29:17,919
and when it comes to humanity you know

776
00:29:21,909 --> 00:29:18,720
starting with

777
00:29:22,870 --> 00:29:21,919
like the australopithecines i think

778
00:29:27,350 --> 00:29:22,880
their hand had been

779
00:29:30,149 --> 00:29:27,360
directly into our dna

780
00:29:31,350 --> 00:29:30,159
manipulating it all the time to where we

781
00:29:34,710 --> 00:29:31,360
are now

782
00:29:40,149 --> 00:29:34,720
hmm that's interesting um

783
00:29:43,510 --> 00:29:40,159
because now you got me curious because

784
00:29:46,710 --> 00:29:43,520
well there's no real because

785
00:29:49,830 --> 00:29:46,720
uh you know i i always think of how

786
00:29:50,549 --> 00:29:49,840
a new species all of a sudden appears on

787
00:29:53,830 --> 00:29:50,559
the planet

788
00:29:54,470 --> 00:29:53,840
you know like an unknown species found

789
00:29:56,789 --> 00:29:54,480
right where

790
00:29:57,830 --> 00:29:56,799
it it should be easily found you know

791
00:30:02,870 --> 00:29:57,840
that's always

792
00:30:03,990 --> 00:30:02,880
you know you read about um i'm not

793
00:30:05,990 --> 00:30:04,000
saying like

794
00:30:08,230 --> 00:30:06,000
uh on the bottom of the ocean or in the

795
00:30:11,269 --> 00:30:08,240
rain forest or something like that but

796
00:30:13,990 --> 00:30:11,279
um say there's just like this animal

797
00:30:14,630 --> 00:30:14,000
or amphibian or something like that and

798
00:30:17,830 --> 00:30:14,640
it's

799
00:30:28,070 --> 00:30:17,840
you know

800
00:30:33,110 --> 00:30:29,830
or i mean i don't know if they just like

801
00:30:36,149 --> 00:30:33,120
magically appeared out of thin air

802
00:30:37,750 --> 00:30:36,159
um i i don't know yeah

803
00:30:39,430 --> 00:30:37,760
um go into a little bit about

804
00:30:41,990 --> 00:30:39,440
terraforming of someone is

805
00:30:44,549 --> 00:30:42,000
um on the message board what is that

806
00:30:46,549 --> 00:30:44,559
what is the overall theory of that

807
00:30:47,909 --> 00:30:46,559
well and i it's a little bit sketchy

808
00:30:48,950 --> 00:30:47,919
because the material that we were

809
00:30:51,990 --> 00:30:48,960
working with

810
00:30:53,029 --> 00:30:52,000
is a little bit thin um but there were

811
00:30:55,350 --> 00:30:53,039
just things

812
00:30:57,750 --> 00:30:55,360
um and actually i'm going to start in a

813
00:30:59,990 --> 00:30:57,760
different spot

814
00:31:00,870 --> 00:31:00,000
when you start reading the mythology you

815
00:31:04,070 --> 00:31:00,880
know the

816
00:31:05,509 --> 00:31:04,080
a bulk of or not a bulk a big chunk of

817
00:31:08,310 --> 00:31:05,519
the storylines

818
00:31:09,990 --> 00:31:08,320
talk about a world where these uh

819
00:31:12,230 --> 00:31:10,000
progenitor gods

820
00:31:13,269 --> 00:31:12,240
uh come to in their what i call the

821
00:31:14,789 --> 00:31:13,279
cosmic egg

822
00:31:16,549 --> 00:31:14,799
and there are these eight progenitor

823
00:31:19,669 --> 00:31:16,559
gods and

824
00:31:20,710 --> 00:31:19,679
they set up a you know their shop or

825
00:31:23,430 --> 00:31:20,720
whatever

826
00:31:25,669 --> 00:31:23,440
and it's a world that is half dark or

827
00:31:27,909 --> 00:31:25,679
it's a world that's in darkness

828
00:31:29,350 --> 00:31:27,919
and while they're there uh there's a

829
00:31:33,430 --> 00:31:29,360
rebellion that happens

830
00:31:35,430 --> 00:31:33,440
and that world is destroyed and

831
00:31:36,549 --> 00:31:35,440
the other group the ones that were the

832
00:31:38,870 --> 00:31:36,559
rebels

833
00:31:40,230 --> 00:31:38,880
take off and start what i'm going to

834
00:31:43,750 --> 00:31:40,240
call a new colony

835
00:31:45,590 --> 00:31:43,760
now i have to say is i'm taking a whole

836
00:31:46,149 --> 00:31:45,600
bunch of myths and kind of stringing

837
00:31:48,230 --> 00:31:46,159
together

838
00:31:49,830 --> 00:31:48,240
a storyline and somebody reading the

839
00:31:51,669 --> 00:31:49,840
book man-made

840
00:31:53,509 --> 00:31:51,679
might come up with a different storyline

841
00:31:54,389 --> 00:31:53,519
but this is the one that seems congruent

842
00:31:56,389 --> 00:31:54,399
to me

843
00:31:59,509 --> 00:31:56,399
um or at least the one that i'm sharing

844
00:32:02,710 --> 00:32:02,070
well one of the things that we saw was

845
00:32:06,070 --> 00:32:02,720
that

846
00:32:10,389 --> 00:32:06,080
was mars

847
00:32:14,389 --> 00:32:12,549
well actually we were just typing that

848
00:32:16,710 --> 00:32:14,399
on the message board

849
00:32:17,830 --> 00:32:16,720
someone had just said at some point in

850
00:32:20,230 --> 00:32:17,840
the future

851
00:32:21,830 --> 00:32:20,240
they want to terraform mars and i said

852
00:32:23,509 --> 00:32:21,840
maybe they already did and it's a failed

853
00:32:25,909 --> 00:32:23,519
project

854
00:32:28,470 --> 00:32:25,919
well actually yes you know one of the

855
00:32:30,950 --> 00:32:28,480
things that scientists have identified

856
00:32:32,870 --> 00:32:30,960
is that within the first and i think

857
00:32:36,070 --> 00:32:32,880
it's the first two million years

858
00:32:37,350 --> 00:32:36,080
of mars development they moved into the

859
00:32:40,389 --> 00:32:37,360
nokian

860
00:32:41,190 --> 00:32:40,399
period where there was water and at the

861
00:32:44,389 --> 00:32:41,200
beginning of an

862
00:32:46,870 --> 00:32:44,399
atmosphere on mars and then they entered

863
00:32:50,070 --> 00:32:46,880
into the late heavy bombardment period

864
00:32:52,789 --> 00:32:50,080
and that's when their uh

865
00:32:54,950 --> 00:32:52,799
the magneto the you know the spinning

866
00:32:56,950 --> 00:32:54,960
inside of mars basically

867
00:32:58,389 --> 00:32:56,960
got messed up and they started to lose

868
00:33:01,190 --> 00:32:58,399
their atmosphere

869
00:33:03,269 --> 00:33:01,200
what's interesting is that so they talk

870
00:33:06,310 --> 00:33:03,279
about this rebellion that happens

871
00:33:09,630 --> 00:33:06,320
you know and i'm kind of using that word

872
00:33:12,389 --> 00:33:09,640
um so

873
00:33:15,830 --> 00:33:12,399
3.8 billion years ago so that was about

874
00:33:18,950 --> 00:33:15,840
4.2 billion years ago so then 3.8

875
00:33:23,669 --> 00:33:22,230
the first signs of life were found

876
00:33:25,750 --> 00:33:23,679
you know that's where they date the

877
00:33:28,789 --> 00:33:25,760
first blue-green algae

878
00:33:31,750 --> 00:33:28,799
on the earth okay and it wasn't much

879
00:33:32,310 --> 00:33:31,760
after that that mars went totally dead

880
00:33:34,230 --> 00:33:32,320
okay

881
00:33:35,590 --> 00:33:34,240
right now one of the other things is

882
00:33:36,950 --> 00:33:35,600
that one of the first things that

883
00:33:39,909 --> 00:33:36,960
happened on the earth was the

884
00:33:43,269 --> 00:33:39,919
development of this blue-green algae

885
00:33:47,350 --> 00:33:43,279
and it created um

886
00:33:49,190 --> 00:33:47,360
iron oxide ochre and

887
00:33:50,389 --> 00:33:49,200
with the water and if there was

888
00:33:53,269 --> 00:33:50,399
blue-green algae

889
00:33:54,230 --> 00:33:53,279
on mars they would have also created

890
00:33:55,590 --> 00:33:54,240
ochre

891
00:33:57,269 --> 00:33:55,600
and you know they say that there wasn't

892
00:33:58,789 --> 00:33:57,279
any life on mars and there was no

893
00:34:01,190 --> 00:33:58,799
atmosphere on mars

894
00:34:02,470 --> 00:34:01,200
except mars has that red color because

895
00:34:05,990 --> 00:34:02,480
it's covered with

896
00:34:11,750 --> 00:34:06,000
iron oxide so you can't have iron oxide

897
00:34:15,829 --> 00:34:13,669
and the only way that you can you know

898
00:34:16,950 --> 00:34:15,839
one of the main ways in antiquity that

899
00:34:18,869 --> 00:34:16,960
that formed

900
00:34:20,790 --> 00:34:18,879
was from this blue-green algae

901
00:34:22,869 --> 00:34:20,800
blue-green algae absorbing

902
00:34:25,430 --> 00:34:22,879
the carbon dioxide from the water and

903
00:34:27,030 --> 00:34:25,440
emitting oxygen and it binding with the

904
00:34:30,230 --> 00:34:27,040
iron

905
00:34:33,270 --> 00:34:30,240
in uh the water

906
00:34:36,389 --> 00:34:33,280
you know and so it was more out of kind

907
00:34:40,069 --> 00:34:36,399
of this uh propensity of circumstances

908
00:34:43,190 --> 00:34:40,079
when you read um vedic texts

909
00:34:44,230 --> 00:34:43,200
they talk about um these two guys at the

910
00:34:47,510 --> 00:34:44,240
end of the last

911
00:34:50,710 --> 00:34:47,520
um i think it was the kalpa yuga

912
00:34:51,510 --> 00:34:50,720
so you know we have different cycles of

913
00:34:55,669 --> 00:34:51,520
time

914
00:35:00,310 --> 00:34:55,679
know there are the

915
00:35:03,670 --> 00:35:00,320
day and the night of brahma and so

916
00:35:06,150 --> 00:35:03,680
on the last day of brahma um these two

917
00:35:08,390 --> 00:35:06,160
guys stole the vedas well the vedas were

918
00:35:10,550 --> 00:35:08,400
the information about creation

919
00:35:12,310 --> 00:35:10,560
and they took off with them so that

920
00:35:15,829 --> 00:35:12,320
story ties in with that

921
00:35:16,630 --> 00:35:15,839
rebel story that i was talking about um

922
00:35:17,910 --> 00:35:16,640
you know we

923
00:35:19,750 --> 00:35:17,920
there it's just there's a lot of

924
00:35:23,510 --> 00:35:19,760
consistencies that it

925
00:35:26,230 --> 00:35:23,520
seems to be that they stole technology

926
00:35:27,589 --> 00:35:26,240
took it to this other place and they set

927
00:35:31,109 --> 00:35:27,599
up shop there

928
00:35:32,230 --> 00:35:31,119
and so you know again you have to just

929
00:35:36,550 --> 00:35:32,240
look at this stuff

930
00:35:38,550 --> 00:35:36,560
and go with the coincidences

931
00:35:40,470 --> 00:35:38,560
i'm sounding really flaky i'm sorry no

932
00:35:43,589 --> 00:35:40,480
you're not not at all

933
00:35:47,030 --> 00:35:43,599
not at all um one of the things

934
00:35:48,870 --> 00:35:47,040
also is um not so much where

935
00:35:51,190 --> 00:35:48,880
you know people are seeing the face on

936
00:35:53,190 --> 00:35:51,200
mars and things like that i mean

937
00:35:54,790 --> 00:35:53,200
nothing to do with that but you would

938
00:35:57,589 --> 00:35:54,800
think that i mean i

939
00:35:58,710 --> 00:35:57,599
i tru truly believe that there was at

940
00:36:01,910 --> 00:35:58,720
least some type

941
00:36:03,109 --> 00:36:01,920
some form of life on mars at one time

942
00:36:05,990 --> 00:36:03,119
before like what you said the

943
00:36:07,670 --> 00:36:06,000
magnetosphere stopped and you know the

944
00:36:11,670 --> 00:36:07,680
atmosphere went away and

945
00:36:14,150 --> 00:36:11,680
and everything had to die but um

946
00:36:15,670 --> 00:36:14,160
i i just think that the rover should be

947
00:36:18,990 --> 00:36:15,680
able to find

948
00:36:22,870 --> 00:36:19,000
life and um you know not to sound

949
00:36:24,870 --> 00:36:22,880
conspiratorial anyway but um

950
00:36:26,150 --> 00:36:24,880
if they did find it would they tell us

951
00:36:29,190 --> 00:36:26,160
right away you know

952
00:36:29,589 --> 00:36:29,200
i don't know well i think that they tend

953
00:36:31,510 --> 00:36:29,599
to

954
00:36:34,390 --> 00:36:31,520
land those rovers in probably some of

955
00:36:36,630 --> 00:36:34,400
the most inconvenient places

956
00:36:37,589 --> 00:36:36,640
you know it's like i don't know if i was

957
00:36:40,150 --> 00:36:37,599
going to mars

958
00:36:42,950 --> 00:36:40,160
i would go to cydonia and try to get

959
00:36:46,069 --> 00:36:42,960
pictures of the faces i mean come on

960
00:36:47,109 --> 00:36:46,079
you know why send it to some crater

961
00:36:49,510 --> 00:36:47,119
somewhere

962
00:36:51,589 --> 00:36:49,520
okay so this might sound kind of weird

963
00:36:53,190 --> 00:36:51,599
but one of the things that i thought

964
00:36:53,990 --> 00:36:53,200
when they first started sending those

965
00:36:56,230 --> 00:36:54,000
rovers up

966
00:36:57,990 --> 00:36:56,240
there and they kept crashing and blowing

967
00:37:00,470 --> 00:36:58,000
up as they were coming down

968
00:37:01,030 --> 00:37:00,480
was that perhaps there's still life on

969
00:37:03,589 --> 00:37:01,040
mars

970
00:37:04,950 --> 00:37:03,599
underground or somewhere and they don't

971
00:37:08,310 --> 00:37:04,960
want us to land

972
00:37:08,950 --> 00:37:08,320
and they're taking them out well i think

973
00:37:16,390 --> 00:37:08,960
if

974
00:37:18,550 --> 00:37:16,400
underground what would be the reason to

975
00:37:20,950 --> 00:37:18,560
be there and how could you survive and

976
00:37:22,630 --> 00:37:20,960
all that you know of course i'm thinking

977
00:37:25,349 --> 00:37:22,640
in human terms

978
00:37:27,349 --> 00:37:25,359
but um but anyway that's still an

979
00:37:30,470 --> 00:37:27,359
interesting concept but

980
00:37:32,069 --> 00:37:30,480
um i i don't know if there

981
00:37:33,670 --> 00:37:32,079
could have ever been intelligent life

982
00:37:34,710 --> 00:37:33,680
there or not but you there are some

983
00:37:36,310 --> 00:37:34,720
intriguing things and

984
00:37:38,790 --> 00:37:36,320
if you look online a lot of times you

985
00:37:41,030 --> 00:37:38,800
will see strange images

986
00:37:41,990 --> 00:37:41,040
um even pictures that the rovers have

987
00:37:45,270 --> 00:37:42,000
taken

988
00:37:48,310 --> 00:37:45,280
of things that are you know almost uh

989
00:37:49,270 --> 00:37:48,320
too good to be true you know look like a

990
00:37:52,069 --> 00:37:49,280
door handle

991
00:37:53,750 --> 00:37:52,079
or a baby shoe or you know there's all

992
00:37:55,910 --> 00:37:53,760
kinds of weird a squirrel

993
00:37:57,670 --> 00:37:55,920
i remember seeing that and you know

994
00:37:58,870 --> 00:37:57,680
maybe it is just rock formations but it

995
00:38:00,230 --> 00:37:58,880
really gets your mind thinking that's

996
00:38:03,589 --> 00:38:00,240
for sure

997
00:38:08,069 --> 00:38:03,599
no i i agree i definitely agree

998
00:38:09,589 --> 00:38:08,079
and then i saw on tv the other day that

999
00:38:11,990 --> 00:38:09,599
you know and it was just a commercial

1000
00:38:14,950 --> 00:38:12,000
and i sort of have paid attention to it

1001
00:38:15,589 --> 00:38:14,960
about some group of like four guys that

1002
00:38:18,870 --> 00:38:15,599
are going to be

1003
00:38:20,870 --> 00:38:18,880
going to mars and i don't know

1004
00:38:22,870 --> 00:38:20,880
what the details and i'm assuming it

1005
00:38:26,630 --> 00:38:22,880
wasn't a nasa mission

1006
00:38:28,790 --> 00:38:26,640
wow um but yeah but it was just

1007
00:38:30,390 --> 00:38:28,800
like this past weekend and i i wish i

1008
00:38:31,109 --> 00:38:30,400
had paid a little bit more attention to

1009
00:38:32,870 --> 00:38:31,119
it but

1010
00:38:34,550 --> 00:38:32,880
it was a commercial so you know as part

1011
00:38:35,589 --> 00:38:34,560
of that like flip flip flip

1012
00:38:39,270 --> 00:38:35,599
push the button get through the

1013
00:38:43,829 --> 00:38:40,790
they're gonna make a reality show out of

1014
00:38:46,710 --> 00:38:43,839
it i think so to be honest with you

1015
00:38:48,150 --> 00:38:46,720
geez wow um here's a here's a thought

1016
00:38:50,950 --> 00:38:48,160
someone posted on the uh

1017
00:38:51,349 --> 00:38:50,960
message board which you know may or may

1018
00:38:52,870 --> 00:38:51,359
not

1019
00:38:54,710 --> 00:38:52,880
actually be true i think he did it kind

1020
00:38:56,310 --> 00:38:54,720
of as a joke but he says they wouldn't

1021
00:38:57,109 --> 00:38:56,320
tell us if they found life on mars

1022
00:38:58,950 --> 00:38:57,119
because

1023
00:39:00,150 --> 00:38:58,960
that would end the funding for the mars

1024
00:39:02,230 --> 00:39:00,160
program

1025
00:39:03,910 --> 00:39:02,240
and the mystery would be solved jobs

1026
00:39:06,230 --> 00:39:03,920
would be lost

1027
00:39:07,829 --> 00:39:06,240
and uh you know i know that sounds it

1028
00:39:11,270 --> 00:39:07,839
was meant as a joke

1029
00:39:14,470 --> 00:39:11,280
but um there could be a lot of truth to

1030
00:39:16,470 --> 00:39:14,480
to that and you know not exactly

1031
00:39:21,030 --> 00:39:16,480
that but uh you know there could be a

1032
00:39:25,030 --> 00:39:23,589
i mean if they find life on mars then

1033
00:39:28,630 --> 00:39:25,040
some of the other things

1034
00:39:30,630 --> 00:39:28,640
that have been said about

1035
00:39:32,870 --> 00:39:30,640
life you know there's this giant

1036
00:39:35,030 --> 00:39:32,880
dichotomy that's going on there are

1037
00:39:38,310 --> 00:39:35,040
scientists that are finding you know

1038
00:39:40,310 --> 00:39:38,320
planets around other stars

1039
00:39:42,390 --> 00:39:40,320
that look like they're in the habitable

1040
00:39:44,150 --> 00:39:42,400
zone and so there's all of this

1041
00:39:46,630 --> 00:39:44,160
information coming out that

1042
00:39:47,670 --> 00:39:46,640
yes it's very possible that we're not

1043
00:39:50,310 --> 00:39:47,680
alone

1044
00:39:51,990 --> 00:39:50,320
and then on the other hand there's a lot

1045
00:39:56,069 --> 00:39:52,000
of

1046
00:39:57,510 --> 00:39:56,079
pressure maybe is the right word about

1047
00:39:59,270 --> 00:39:57,520
well we're but you're not supposed to

1048
00:40:01,030 --> 00:39:59,280
look at it you know and

1049
00:40:02,550 --> 00:40:01,040
and the whole thing of the government

1050
00:40:04,309 --> 00:40:02,560
covering it up i mean i do think the

1051
00:40:05,750 --> 00:40:04,319
government's covering it up

1052
00:40:07,910 --> 00:40:05,760
and i think they've been covering it up

1053
00:40:09,990 --> 00:40:07,920
for a long time

1054
00:40:11,030 --> 00:40:10,000
yeah i i talk about that a lot in the

1055
00:40:14,230 --> 00:40:11,040
show and

1056
00:40:16,069 --> 00:40:14,240
you know i think that it's it is very

1057
00:40:17,270 --> 00:40:16,079
possible that there is some part of the

1058
00:40:19,430 --> 00:40:17,280
government

1059
00:40:21,270 --> 00:40:19,440
and um you know maybe a need to know

1060
00:40:23,589 --> 00:40:21,280
type of situation

1061
00:40:24,630 --> 00:40:23,599
and however you know we talk about

1062
00:40:27,349 --> 00:40:24,640
roswell a lot

1063
00:40:29,109 --> 00:40:27,359
and and you know the the very obvious

1064
00:40:31,750 --> 00:40:29,119
cover-up with that

1065
00:40:32,309 --> 00:40:31,760
is it's just um you wonder how you know

1066
00:40:33,829 --> 00:40:32,319
as

1067
00:40:35,910 --> 00:40:33,839
time progresses what part of the

1068
00:40:37,430 --> 00:40:35,920
government would know about it and what

1069
00:40:39,309 --> 00:40:37,440
you know is it all need to know is in

1070
00:40:42,390 --> 00:40:39,319
just a very small

1071
00:40:46,470 --> 00:40:42,400
compartmentalized section that deals

1072
00:40:50,309 --> 00:40:48,550
i i don't really have a thought on that

1073
00:40:52,870 --> 00:40:50,319
i mean my feeling is

1074
00:40:54,069 --> 00:40:52,880
you know if it's need to know we already

1075
00:40:58,550 --> 00:40:54,079
all know

1076
00:41:01,589 --> 00:40:58,560
x-files

1077
00:41:03,349 --> 00:41:01,599
and and we've seen all the shows and so

1078
00:41:05,109 --> 00:41:03,359
why does it need to be a big secret

1079
00:41:05,990 --> 00:41:05,119
anymore other than they've been lying to

1080
00:41:08,230 --> 00:41:06,000
us for so long

1081
00:41:09,910 --> 00:41:08,240
i feel like that's the bigger secret the

1082
00:41:11,750 --> 00:41:09,920
lies well

1083
00:41:15,349 --> 00:41:11,760
absolutely i mean they would have a lot

1084
00:41:19,510 --> 00:41:17,589
that's for sure you know and then i've

1085
00:41:21,270 --> 00:41:19,520
heard you know the commentary which i

1086
00:41:23,190 --> 00:41:21,280
could totally believe about the back

1087
00:41:26,790 --> 00:41:23,200
engineering of technology

1088
00:41:28,790 --> 00:41:26,800
and the whole financial piece of not

1089
00:41:31,109 --> 00:41:28,800
wanting that technology to get into

1090
00:41:32,069 --> 00:41:31,119
somebody else's hands from the monetary

1091
00:41:34,069 --> 00:41:32,079
point of view

1092
00:41:35,349 --> 00:41:34,079
you know it always comes down to money

1093
00:41:39,109 --> 00:41:35,359
oh it's

1094
00:41:40,950 --> 00:41:39,119
it always does everything does and yeah

1095
00:41:42,710 --> 00:41:40,960
you know like fiber optics that's a good

1096
00:41:45,510 --> 00:41:42,720
example you know

1097
00:41:46,950 --> 00:41:45,520
something was written um you know years

1098
00:41:50,309 --> 00:41:46,960
ago about

1099
00:41:52,150 --> 00:41:50,319
um a a craft a found craft and they were

1100
00:41:54,069 --> 00:41:52,160
describing in different words exactly

1101
00:41:55,910 --> 00:41:54,079
what fiber optics was

1102
00:41:57,190 --> 00:41:55,920
you know and i think that's a a pretty

1103
00:41:59,750 --> 00:41:57,200
good

1104
00:42:01,270 --> 00:41:59,760
you know it's not evidence but it's a

1105
00:42:03,190 --> 00:42:01,280
it's an idea that it's a

1106
00:42:05,910 --> 00:42:03,200
possibility that that's reverse

1107
00:42:08,230 --> 00:42:05,920
engineering right there

1108
00:42:09,190 --> 00:42:08,240
i always like throwing out velcro you

1109
00:42:14,309 --> 00:42:09,200
know i heard that

1110
00:42:18,390 --> 00:42:16,630
i heard the guy that invented that had

1111
00:42:20,710 --> 00:42:18,400
armed guards around that

1112
00:42:21,990 --> 00:42:20,720
invention or something like that this is

1113
00:42:23,829 --> 00:42:22,000
when i was a little kid

1114
00:42:25,589 --> 00:42:23,839
but you know how those stories float

1115
00:42:28,710 --> 00:42:25,599
uh-huh

1116
00:42:31,589 --> 00:42:28,720
so but it seems like you know from

1117
00:42:32,550 --> 00:42:31,599
the point of roswell things have just

1118
00:42:36,870 --> 00:42:32,560
moved forward

1119
00:42:38,150 --> 00:42:36,880
exponentially in the area of electronics

1120
00:42:41,510 --> 00:42:38,160
i mean i'm trying to think of when we

1121
00:42:44,630 --> 00:42:41,520
had our like first computers

1122
00:42:48,230 --> 00:42:44,640
and did they have computers in world war

1123
00:42:51,829 --> 00:42:48,240
ii they had very rudimentary

1124
00:42:53,349 --> 00:42:51,839
um very very you know i can't i don't

1125
00:42:55,589 --> 00:42:53,359
know exactly what they were

1126
00:42:57,109 --> 00:42:55,599
and i don't think in the 40s i'm

1127
00:42:59,190 --> 00:42:57,119
thinking later

1128
00:43:02,230 --> 00:42:59,200
so you know there may be there may be a

1129
00:43:06,309 --> 00:43:03,670
yeah i mean i'm thinking of you know

1130
00:43:07,510 --> 00:43:06,319
like the i can't think of the name you

1131
00:43:10,550 --> 00:43:07,520
know the encryption

1132
00:43:11,030 --> 00:43:10,560
boxes you know and and stuff but i don't

1133
00:43:13,829 --> 00:43:11,040
really

1134
00:43:15,190 --> 00:43:13,839
think they had electronics heck they

1135
00:43:18,470 --> 00:43:15,200
barely had tv sets

1136
00:43:22,710 --> 00:43:21,109
and now it's growing leaps and bounds

1137
00:43:26,150 --> 00:43:22,720
you know it's just amazing

1138
00:43:26,950 --> 00:43:26,160
amazing where it'll go and and you know

1139
00:43:28,950 --> 00:43:26,960
that's

1140
00:43:30,230 --> 00:43:28,960
a lot of times when people question the

1141
00:43:32,790 --> 00:43:30,240
fact that it is

1142
00:43:33,750 --> 00:43:32,800
totally physically impossible for

1143
00:43:37,190 --> 00:43:33,760
another

1144
00:43:39,910 --> 00:43:37,200
to

1145
00:43:41,510 --> 00:43:39,920
visit us um you know basically if you

1146
00:43:42,390 --> 00:43:41,520
can just look at what's happened to our

1147
00:43:45,510 --> 00:43:42,400
technology

1148
00:43:48,069 --> 00:43:45,520
in the last even you know 25 years

1149
00:43:48,790 --> 00:43:48,079
then you should be able to envision that

1150
00:43:49,990 --> 00:43:48,800
you know

1151
00:43:52,870 --> 00:43:50,000
someone's going to figure it out

1152
00:43:56,069 --> 00:43:52,880
eventually on space travel

1153
00:43:59,270 --> 00:43:56,079
well and you know based on

1154
00:44:00,390 --> 00:43:59,280
the uh dynamics and importance in their

1155
00:44:02,550 --> 00:44:00,400
culture

1156
00:44:04,470 --> 00:44:02,560
you know they might have gone down a

1157
00:44:05,990 --> 00:44:04,480
different evolutionary

1158
00:44:09,030 --> 00:44:06,000
scientific i don't mean physical

1159
00:44:12,309 --> 00:44:09,040
evolutionary but scientific path

1160
00:44:15,030 --> 00:44:12,319
you know i was listening to

1161
00:44:16,950 --> 00:44:15,040
i think it was rush limbaugh i don't

1162
00:44:19,190 --> 00:44:16,960
remember not that i totally hate russia

1163
00:44:20,230 --> 00:44:19,200
i appreciate him more now than i did 10

1164
00:44:22,150 --> 00:44:20,240
years ago

1165
00:44:24,390 --> 00:44:22,160
but i think it was his show or one of

1166
00:44:26,710 --> 00:44:24,400
those am radio shows

1167
00:44:27,589 --> 00:44:26,720
and they had the scientist on talking

1168
00:44:29,109 --> 00:44:27,599
about

1169
00:44:31,430 --> 00:44:29,119
life in outer space and they were

1170
00:44:32,790 --> 00:44:31,440
talking you're gonna laugh

1171
00:44:35,030 --> 00:44:32,800
and they were talking about the

1172
00:44:39,030 --> 00:44:35,040
possibility of um

1173
00:44:41,430 --> 00:44:39,040
life being on the on europa

1174
00:44:42,309 --> 00:44:41,440
you know the icy world right and that

1175
00:44:45,910 --> 00:44:42,319
there might be

1176
00:44:47,750 --> 00:44:45,920
these aquatic intelligent aquatic

1177
00:44:49,670 --> 00:44:47,760
animals and they were kind of liking

1178
00:44:52,150 --> 00:44:49,680
them to dolphins

1179
00:44:53,030 --> 00:44:52,160
you know on that planet that existed

1180
00:44:55,829 --> 00:44:53,040
under the water

1181
00:44:57,910 --> 00:44:55,839
which fine under the ice under the ice

1182
00:44:59,990 --> 00:44:57,920
and and the comment that the person made

1183
00:45:01,670 --> 00:45:00,000
was

1184
00:45:04,150 --> 00:45:01,680
it still makes me laugh thinking about

1185
00:45:06,069 --> 00:45:04,160
it today well if they were intelligent

1186
00:45:07,589 --> 00:45:06,079
they still couldn't be under the water

1187
00:45:10,150 --> 00:45:07,599
because how could they make

1188
00:45:11,589 --> 00:45:10,160
you know pc boards and electronics

1189
00:45:15,109 --> 00:45:11,599
because it wouldn't function under the

1190
00:45:22,069 --> 00:45:18,550
i'm like who are you

1191
00:45:25,430 --> 00:45:22,079
and what dummy tank did you come out of

1192
00:45:27,829 --> 00:45:25,440
i mean really yeah yep

1193
00:45:29,190 --> 00:45:27,839
anyway it just amazes me but you know

1194
00:45:30,309 --> 00:45:29,200
those are the people that you know are

1195
00:45:36,230 --> 00:45:30,319
getting airtime

1196
00:45:39,510 --> 00:45:36,240
i don't get on nationwide radio

1197
00:45:40,390 --> 00:45:39,520
yeah yep that's right yeah no you know i

1198
00:45:44,150 --> 00:45:40,400
mean that

1199
00:45:46,790 --> 00:45:44,160
your europa is really quite an amazing

1200
00:45:47,670 --> 00:45:46,800
moon when you think about it it could be

1201
00:45:49,829 --> 00:45:47,680
thermal

1202
00:45:50,870 --> 00:45:49,839
actually actually warm water under the

1203
00:45:54,550 --> 00:45:50,880
ice or

1204
00:45:58,069 --> 00:45:54,560
or when i say warm water you know

1205
00:45:59,430 --> 00:45:58,079
way above freezing and so

1206
00:46:01,430 --> 00:45:59,440
you know that's the number one

1207
00:46:04,150 --> 00:46:01,440
ingredient you need is water for life

1208
00:46:05,589 --> 00:46:04,160
it's very possible i hope we we actually

1209
00:46:08,230 --> 00:46:05,599
go there and visit it and

1210
00:46:10,870 --> 00:46:08,240
drill the two miles down and send a

1211
00:46:14,790 --> 00:46:10,880
probe down in there and check it out

1212
00:46:16,550 --> 00:46:14,800
that'd be pretty cool yeah so

1213
00:46:17,910 --> 00:46:16,560
what are have you written other books

1214
00:46:18,790 --> 00:46:17,920
besides this one we've been talking

1215
00:46:21,670 --> 00:46:18,800
about

1216
00:46:22,230 --> 00:46:21,680
yeah i've written um three other books

1217
00:46:24,950 --> 00:46:22,240
um

1218
00:46:26,390 --> 00:46:24,960
the book that i wrote prior to man-made

1219
00:46:26,950 --> 00:46:26,400
the chronicles of our extraterrestrial

1220
00:46:29,829 --> 00:46:26,960
gods

1221
00:46:31,990 --> 00:46:29,839
was entitled dark angels an insider's

1222
00:46:35,589 --> 00:46:32,000
guide to ghost spirits and attached

1223
00:46:38,550 --> 00:46:35,599
entities and it looks at

1224
00:46:42,870 --> 00:46:38,560
ghosts spirits and attached entities wow

1225
00:46:45,750 --> 00:46:42,880
that was pretty easy

1226
00:46:46,230 --> 00:46:45,760
um you know and it was it's a really fun

1227
00:46:49,270 --> 00:46:46,240
book

1228
00:46:51,109 --> 00:46:49,280
um i tell i talk about different topics

1229
00:46:53,430 --> 00:46:51,119
i talk about the concept of attached

1230
00:46:54,870 --> 00:46:53,440
entities which is a pretty interesting

1231
00:46:57,990 --> 00:46:54,880
scary topic

1232
00:47:01,030 --> 00:46:58,000
um but these ex

1233
00:47:01,510 --> 00:47:01,040
the information in there is illustrated

1234
00:47:03,670 --> 00:47:01,520
through

1235
00:47:04,950 --> 00:47:03,680
my personal stories you know and i

1236
00:47:07,349 --> 00:47:04,960
didn't really mean for it to be this

1237
00:47:09,349 --> 00:47:07,359
kind of like autobiographical

1238
00:47:10,870 --> 00:47:09,359
thing but it just kind of ended up that

1239
00:47:13,510 --> 00:47:10,880
way um

1240
00:47:14,630 --> 00:47:13,520
but it's pretty fun because from what

1241
00:47:16,309 --> 00:47:14,640
i've been told

1242
00:47:17,910 --> 00:47:16,319
it's like hanging out with me and i'm

1243
00:47:18,630 --> 00:47:17,920
just sitting there telling you stories

1244
00:47:21,109 --> 00:47:18,640
in my

1245
00:47:22,069 --> 00:47:21,119
fun and witty way because it was pretty

1246
00:47:25,589 --> 00:47:22,079
unedited

1247
00:47:28,710 --> 00:47:25,599
uh i mean edited for grammar but not

1248
00:47:29,190 --> 00:47:28,720
edited for my personality coming out of

1249
00:47:35,030 --> 00:47:29,200
the book

1250
00:47:37,349 --> 00:47:35,040
was called avoiding the cosmic 2x4 and

1251
00:47:40,950 --> 00:47:37,359
it looks at the mind-body connection

1252
00:47:43,190 --> 00:47:40,960
and discusses how and why we get sick

1253
00:47:45,109 --> 00:47:43,200
looking at it from a you know i'm going

1254
00:47:48,870 --> 00:47:45,119
to say metaphysical perspective

1255
00:47:50,549 --> 00:47:48,880
it goes into the aura and chakras and

1256
00:47:51,990 --> 00:47:50,559
subtle bodies and talks about the

1257
00:47:54,470 --> 00:47:52,000
movement of subtle energy

1258
00:47:55,030 --> 00:47:54,480
through the bodies into the physical

1259
00:47:58,150 --> 00:47:55,040
body

1260
00:47:59,349 --> 00:47:58,160
and why imbalances to the flow of subtle

1261
00:48:02,230 --> 00:47:59,359
energy

1262
00:48:02,870 --> 00:48:02,240
can create illness and then what you can

1263
00:48:06,150 --> 00:48:02,880
do

1264
00:48:09,430 --> 00:48:06,160
to make yourself well again

1265
00:48:11,030 --> 00:48:09,440
to avoid the cosmic 2x4 yes sir you lost

1266
00:48:14,230 --> 00:48:11,040
me at your third book

1267
00:48:17,030 --> 00:48:14,240
chakra somewhere sorry okay so are you

1268
00:48:20,230 --> 00:48:17,040
not familiar with the concept of chakras

1269
00:48:22,630 --> 00:48:20,240
uh not really no but i don't want to you

1270
00:48:26,069 --> 00:48:22,640
know drag our listeners into that

1271
00:48:28,950 --> 00:48:26,079
into that um but um you know uh

1272
00:48:31,430 --> 00:48:28,960
the the main reason i wanted you on the

1273
00:48:33,510 --> 00:48:31,440
show was your your last book of course

1274
00:48:35,109 --> 00:48:33,520
and how has that how has that sold is

1275
00:48:36,630 --> 00:48:35,119
that done well

1276
00:48:38,790 --> 00:48:36,640
it's done well and actually it was

1277
00:48:40,230 --> 00:48:38,800
picked up by a mainstream publisher and

1278
00:48:44,309 --> 00:48:40,240
is being re-released

1279
00:48:45,349 --> 00:48:44,319
in october um under the title et

1280
00:48:47,349 --> 00:48:45,359
chronicles

1281
00:48:48,390 --> 00:48:47,359
you know so people are interested in

1282
00:48:50,470 --> 00:48:48,400
getting a first

1283
00:48:52,470 --> 00:48:50,480
edition with the original title because

1284
00:48:53,990 --> 00:48:52,480
basically there are two additional

1285
00:48:57,349 --> 00:48:54,000
paragraphs in the new book

1286
00:49:00,390 --> 00:48:57,359
and maybe a few less spelling mistakes

1287
00:49:02,710 --> 00:49:00,400
and there is no difference between the

1288
00:49:03,430 --> 00:49:02,720
you know this title and the one that's

1289
00:49:06,870 --> 00:49:03,440
coming out

1290
00:49:08,069 --> 00:49:06,880
other than the name and uh yeah

1291
00:49:10,230 --> 00:49:08,079
you know but one of the other things

1292
00:49:14,230 --> 00:49:10,240
that i would like to share is i have

1293
00:49:16,790 --> 00:49:14,240
um a youtube channel um called

1294
00:49:18,069 --> 00:49:16,800
science and spirit meet and one of the

1295
00:49:18,950 --> 00:49:18,079
things that i've been doing over the

1296
00:49:22,710 --> 00:49:18,960
last

1297
00:49:26,069 --> 00:49:22,720
year or so is producing these little uh

1298
00:49:27,109 --> 00:49:26,079
video magazines and covering different

1299
00:49:30,309 --> 00:49:27,119
topics and so

1300
00:49:31,190 --> 00:49:30,319
i have um one that talks about who are

1301
00:49:34,390 --> 00:49:31,200
the authors of

1302
00:49:37,270 --> 00:49:34,400
myth um another one that talks about uh

1303
00:49:37,829 --> 00:49:37,280
genetic engineering and antiquity um

1304
00:49:40,230 --> 00:49:37,839
there are

1305
00:49:42,069 --> 00:49:40,240
a variety of different topics that i've

1306
00:49:44,150 --> 00:49:42,079
covered you know reincarnation

1307
00:49:46,390 --> 00:49:44,160
i mean they pretty much cross the gamut

1308
00:49:49,589 --> 00:49:46,400
of alternative thought but there

1309
00:49:52,470 --> 00:49:49,599
are quite a few that really talk about

1310
00:49:54,230 --> 00:49:52,480
the ancient alley in question uh one

1311
00:49:56,390 --> 00:49:54,240
talking about the nephilim which is

1312
00:49:58,230 --> 00:49:56,400
probably my most popular one

1313
00:49:59,430 --> 00:49:58,240
where i had to turn the comments off

1314
00:50:01,750 --> 00:49:59,440
because

1315
00:50:03,349 --> 00:50:01,760
i was getting pretty slammed but it's

1316
00:50:04,870 --> 00:50:03,359
really good you know people either

1317
00:50:08,069 --> 00:50:04,880
really like it

1318
00:50:11,109 --> 00:50:08,079
or really hate it that's just like

1319
00:50:13,030 --> 00:50:11,119
art they say it'll move you one way or

1320
00:50:14,230 --> 00:50:13,040
the other either you love it or you hate

1321
00:50:19,750 --> 00:50:14,240
it

1322
00:50:23,750 --> 00:50:21,510
going back to ghosts i know where this

1323
00:50:24,870 --> 00:50:23,760
is a ufo show but you know that's that's

1324
00:50:27,670 --> 00:50:24,880
a subject that's

1325
00:50:28,069 --> 00:50:27,680
has fascinated me and a lot of times

1326
00:50:34,230 --> 00:50:28,079
there

1327
00:50:36,710 --> 00:50:34,240
where they see ghosts they see bigfoot

1328
00:50:39,750 --> 00:50:36,720
they see ufos and all that

1329
00:50:41,109 --> 00:50:39,760
in your research in in the ghosts and

1330
00:50:44,710 --> 00:50:41,119
spirits and all that

1331
00:50:48,069 --> 00:50:44,720
did you find this any of this

1332
00:50:49,750 --> 00:50:48,079
to be true or at least that there was an

1333
00:50:53,589 --> 00:50:49,760
area that seemed to

1334
00:50:56,710 --> 00:50:53,599
be more active than other areas

1335
00:50:59,190 --> 00:50:56,720
okay great question um you know it's

1336
00:51:00,630 --> 00:50:59,200
interesting because i think that all

1337
00:51:03,109 --> 00:51:00,640
three

1338
00:51:04,710 --> 00:51:03,119
groups that you just mentioned all kind

1339
00:51:07,990 --> 00:51:04,720
of conglomerate

1340
00:51:10,390 --> 00:51:08,000
around the same kinds of energy and

1341
00:51:12,230 --> 00:51:10,400
when we start talking about areas where

1342
00:51:14,710 --> 00:51:12,240
we have ley lines

1343
00:51:15,670 --> 00:51:14,720
um and things like that thing areas that

1344
00:51:19,430 --> 00:51:15,680
are considered

1345
00:51:22,710 --> 00:51:19,440
sacred space we tend to find that

1346
00:51:23,349 --> 00:51:22,720
there are more sightings of ghosts there

1347
00:51:26,710 --> 00:51:23,359
are

1348
00:51:28,470 --> 00:51:26,720
you know if the uh situation is correct

1349
00:51:32,069 --> 00:51:28,480
more sightings of bigfoot

1350
00:51:33,910 --> 00:51:32,079
and ufos you know and i i think it's an

1351
00:51:36,870 --> 00:51:33,920
energy thing you know usually if you

1352
00:51:39,510 --> 00:51:36,880
have ley lines there are energy vortexes

1353
00:51:40,230 --> 00:51:39,520
and so what's going on on the planet

1354
00:51:43,349 --> 00:51:40,240
tends to be

1355
00:51:45,510 --> 00:51:43,359
amplified um and so i think that they

1356
00:51:48,710 --> 00:51:45,520
all kind of come together

1357
00:51:50,309 --> 00:51:48,720
in those areas that's interesting last

1358
00:51:53,349 --> 00:51:50,319
week we had a guest

1359
00:51:55,510 --> 00:51:53,359
on that was talking about a place called

1360
00:51:56,950 --> 00:51:55,520
brown mountain down in north carolina

1361
00:51:59,670 --> 00:51:56,960
and that was

1362
00:52:00,309 --> 00:51:59,680
almost identical to what he was saying

1363
00:52:01,990 --> 00:52:00,319
you know though

1364
00:52:03,990 --> 00:52:02,000
he believed that there was a high energy

1365
00:52:05,910 --> 00:52:04,000
field in that

1366
00:52:08,230 --> 00:52:05,920
area and there was someone doing like

1367
00:52:09,990 --> 00:52:08,240
energy work that you could actually see

1368
00:52:12,069 --> 00:52:10,000
something when they took photographs and

1369
00:52:14,790 --> 00:52:12,079
all that and there's like a

1370
00:52:15,270 --> 00:52:14,800
citing a constant sighting going on

1371
00:52:18,470 --> 00:52:15,280
there

1372
00:52:21,750 --> 00:52:18,480
of ufos and and abductions and i know

1373
00:52:23,670 --> 00:52:21,760
you you touch briefly that you

1374
00:52:25,750 --> 00:52:23,680
have never been an experiencer or

1375
00:52:28,230 --> 00:52:25,760
anything like that but

1376
00:52:30,470 --> 00:52:28,240
do you actually have you ever actually

1377
00:52:33,510 --> 00:52:30,480
looked into or talked to anyone about

1378
00:52:35,510 --> 00:52:33,520
the abduction phenomena

1379
00:52:37,510 --> 00:52:35,520
i mean obviously with the show i've

1380
00:52:40,790 --> 00:52:37,520
interviewed a number of different people

1381
00:52:43,430 --> 00:52:40,800
you know that have been experiencers or

1382
00:52:45,030 --> 00:52:43,440
write about that that topic you know

1383
00:52:47,750 --> 00:52:45,040
it's kind of scary to me

1384
00:52:50,150 --> 00:52:47,760
oh yeah well i guess it's scary to the

1385
00:52:54,150 --> 00:52:50,160
people that are experiencing it too

1386
00:52:55,910 --> 00:52:54,160
um i mean if it's true

1387
00:52:57,589 --> 00:52:55,920
if it's true and it really does happen i

1388
00:52:59,349 --> 00:52:57,599
can't even imagine

1389
00:53:01,829 --> 00:52:59,359
what it would be like i mean like the

1390
00:53:04,630 --> 00:53:01,839
worst nightmare you you could imagine

1391
00:53:06,870 --> 00:53:04,640
really but what's even worse than that

1392
00:53:09,589 --> 00:53:06,880
is that if you have an experience

1393
00:53:11,750 --> 00:53:09,599
where you saw a ghost in your house you

1394
00:53:14,630 --> 00:53:11,760
can go to your friends and say

1395
00:53:16,470 --> 00:53:14,640
i think i saw a ghost and i'm scared you

1396
00:53:17,109 --> 00:53:16,480
know can you really go to your friends

1397
00:53:20,630 --> 00:53:17,119
and say

1398
00:53:22,630 --> 00:53:20,640
i think i was abducted and i'm scared

1399
00:53:24,549 --> 00:53:22,640
you know so they're i mean i feel really

1400
00:53:27,109 --> 00:53:24,559
for those individuals because there's

1401
00:53:29,990 --> 00:53:27,119
this huge sense of isolation

1402
00:53:31,190 --> 00:53:30,000
that comes along with it right and

1403
00:53:33,750 --> 00:53:31,200
social stigma

1404
00:53:35,670 --> 00:53:33,760
a few people that i've talked to that

1405
00:53:38,390 --> 00:53:35,680
claim this has happened to them

1406
00:53:40,230 --> 00:53:38,400
and talk to them quietly you know are

1407
00:53:41,510 --> 00:53:40,240
like suffering about it you know i

1408
00:53:44,470 --> 00:53:41,520
talked to one guy that i

1409
00:53:45,670 --> 00:53:44,480
i didn't really believe um because he

1410
00:53:48,870 --> 00:53:45,680
seemed like he was

1411
00:53:50,710 --> 00:53:48,880
looking to you know uh looking to talk

1412
00:53:52,790 --> 00:53:50,720
about a little too much

1413
00:53:54,230 --> 00:53:52,800
um you know get up in front of people

1414
00:53:57,589 --> 00:53:54,240
and talk about it

1415
00:53:59,349 --> 00:53:57,599
um but this one woman i talked to very

1416
00:54:02,309 --> 00:53:59,359
quietly about it i mean she was

1417
00:54:03,030 --> 00:54:02,319
she was in pain talking about it and it

1418
00:54:06,470 --> 00:54:03,040
it made it

1419
00:54:06,870 --> 00:54:06,480
much more believable to me well and i

1420
00:54:11,190 --> 00:54:06,880
think

1421
00:54:14,790 --> 00:54:11,200
people that have those experiences

1422
00:54:18,309 --> 00:54:16,870
my experience has been more working and

1423
00:54:20,309 --> 00:54:18,319
i'm going to kind of shift the focus

1424
00:54:22,309 --> 00:54:20,319
here a second is with people that have

1425
00:54:25,349 --> 00:54:22,319
what's called an attached entity

1426
00:54:28,790 --> 00:54:25,359
and it's basically a ghost that

1427
00:54:31,349 --> 00:54:28,800
can control and manipulate your energy

1428
00:54:33,349 --> 00:54:31,359
now whether it is actually a departed

1429
00:54:35,109 --> 00:54:33,359
person or we're talking about some kind

1430
00:54:37,430 --> 00:54:35,119
of an alien that's taking on

1431
00:54:39,190 --> 00:54:37,440
humanoid form is it you know we can get

1432
00:54:40,390 --> 00:54:39,200
into a totally different conversation

1433
00:54:43,030 --> 00:54:40,400
but anyway

1434
00:54:44,950 --> 00:54:43,040
um when i have individuals whose

1435
00:54:46,549 --> 00:54:44,960
individuals who come to me and say

1436
00:54:48,710 --> 00:54:46,559
i have an attached entity i have an

1437
00:54:51,829 --> 00:54:48,720
attached entity usually i'm like

1438
00:54:52,870 --> 00:54:51,839
no you don't you know because they just

1439
00:54:55,030 --> 00:54:52,880
think they do

1440
00:54:57,109 --> 00:54:55,040
and it's the people that tend to be much

1441
00:54:59,030 --> 00:54:57,119
more humble about it

1442
00:55:01,109 --> 00:54:59,040
are the ones that you really need to

1443
00:55:02,789 --> 00:55:01,119
listen to because those are the ones

1444
00:55:05,990 --> 00:55:02,799
that it probably is

1445
00:55:09,670 --> 00:55:06,000
a fact yep i agree 100

1446
00:55:12,630 --> 00:55:09,680
exactly yeah um we're getting toward

1447
00:55:14,630 --> 00:55:12,640
the end of the show here and i'm just

1448
00:55:17,510 --> 00:55:14,640
going to look to see if we have any more

1449
00:55:18,789 --> 00:55:17,520
questions up on our okay we do have one

1450
00:55:20,630 --> 00:55:18,799
question here

1451
00:55:21,990 --> 00:55:20,640
the guest has mentioned energy mind

1452
00:55:24,150 --> 00:55:22,000
connections

1453
00:55:27,829 --> 00:55:24,160
i wonder what her thoughts are on remote

1454
00:55:35,270 --> 00:55:31,589
100 real i mean if you

1455
00:55:36,950 --> 00:55:35,280
are doing any kind of psychic reading

1456
00:55:38,950 --> 00:55:36,960
you know if you're doing a relationship

1457
00:55:40,789 --> 00:55:38,960
reading and i'm talking to you

1458
00:55:42,630 --> 00:55:40,799
and i'm talking to you about your

1459
00:55:43,990 --> 00:55:42,640
boyfriend or a girlfriend who might be

1460
00:55:45,829 --> 00:55:44,000
at home

1461
00:55:48,230 --> 00:55:45,839
you're now doing remote viewing i mean

1462
00:55:51,670 --> 00:55:48,240
it's that's a very simplistic

1463
00:55:53,270 --> 00:55:51,680
example of it but i think we all i

1464
00:55:55,430 --> 00:55:53,280
believe that we all have psychic

1465
00:55:58,630 --> 00:55:55,440
abilities and i believe that we all

1466
00:56:01,670 --> 00:55:58,640
remote view and we just don't realize it

1467
00:56:03,990 --> 00:56:01,680
i was on a a live radio

1468
00:56:05,349 --> 00:56:04,000
show oh i don't know maybe about a year

1469
00:56:07,030 --> 00:56:05,359
ago and

1470
00:56:08,710 --> 00:56:07,040
the guy kind of as a joke he said all

1471
00:56:11,349 --> 00:56:08,720
right now we're doing our remote viewing

1472
00:56:12,069 --> 00:56:11,359
he said i have something on my desk and

1473
00:56:14,230 --> 00:56:12,079
um

1474
00:56:15,109 --> 00:56:14,240
i'm looking at it right now what is it

1475
00:56:17,030 --> 00:56:15,119
and i said

1476
00:56:20,390 --> 00:56:17,040
the first thing that came to my mind i

1477
00:56:22,069 --> 00:56:20,400
said it looks like a turtle

1478
00:56:26,309 --> 00:56:22,079
okay that's really weird because i'm

1479
00:56:31,910 --> 00:56:29,349
and uh he said uh well he said actually

1480
00:56:34,230 --> 00:56:31,920
it's a uh it's a hard hat and he says

1481
00:56:36,710 --> 00:56:34,240
you just won

1482
00:56:38,950 --> 00:56:36,720
but um it's it's kind of funny i've seen

1483
00:56:42,150 --> 00:56:38,960
people that have like intuitive thoughts

1484
00:56:45,109 --> 00:56:42,160
in you know i know someone that does

1485
00:56:45,589 --> 00:56:45,119
and i'll be darned a lot of times she's

1486
00:56:46,950 --> 00:56:45,599
right

1487
00:56:48,309 --> 00:56:46,960
you know she'll just come out and say

1488
00:56:49,109 --> 00:56:48,319
something and next thing you know it's

1489
00:56:51,109 --> 00:56:49,119
like wow

1490
00:56:52,710 --> 00:56:51,119
how the heck did she know that it's

1491
00:56:54,470 --> 00:56:52,720
interesting

1492
00:56:55,910 --> 00:56:54,480
okay you know that's going to be it for

1493
00:56:58,150 --> 00:56:55,920
our show tonight

1494
00:56:59,990 --> 00:56:58,160
and thank you so much for joining us

1495
00:57:01,910 --> 00:57:00,000
well thanks for having me on

1496
00:57:04,069 --> 00:57:01,920
yes can i can i do a shout out to my

1497
00:57:05,349 --> 00:57:04,079
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1498
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so if people want to get some more

1499
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1500
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1501
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1502
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1503
00:57:21,670 --> 00:57:18,079
of like the portal to

1504
00:57:24,630 --> 00:57:21,680
the new redesigned right yeah

1505
00:57:25,910 --> 00:57:24,640
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1506
00:57:27,430 --> 00:57:25,920
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1507
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